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TheClaw
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Post subject: Clutch Confusion Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:41 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:00 am Posts: 58 Location: Chicagoland
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TheClaw
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Post subject: Re: Clutch Confusion Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:50 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:00 am Posts: 58 Location: Chicagoland
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This is going on a track bike, is it reasonable to safetywire the bolts holding the control disk or is that over kill?
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618F1
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Post subject: Re: Clutch Confusion Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:14 pm |
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Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:23 am Posts: 1812
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It almost looks like a wet clutch set installed in a dry clutch. But the drawing looks wrong for any Pantah. The last plate (driving, or whatever it is) installed, facing you, must have a metal outer surface, have the outside tabs, and be big enough to be held in by the big ring. Then should have about 1/8th inch of space below the retaining ring, before the pressure plate is installed.
Looking again, why dont you put that small driven ring inside the stack, just after the conical ring is installed, and then put that metal surface friction (driving) ring outside? Problem solved?
No need for wire.
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TheClaw
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Post subject: Re: Clutch Confusion Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:18 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:00 am Posts: 58 Location: Chicagoland
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From the parts diagram it looks like a metal disk goes in first then the disks with the tabs, alternating until you get to the outside disk with the tabs. Except that in the diagram, the outside disk is a different part number. Looks backwards from what I took out. No guarantee that what I took out was correct though.
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pantah_good
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Post subject: Re: Clutch Confusion Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:25 pm |
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Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:20 pm Posts: 1275 Location: Vermont, USA
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May help if you don't already have it. From the F1 service manual available on the Bevel Heaven website.
Old rule of thumb...When in doubt, safety wire anything you don't want falling off.
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TheClaw
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Post subject: Re: Clutch Confusion Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:54 am |
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Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:00 am Posts: 58 Location: Chicagoland
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pantah_good wrote: May help if you don't already have it. From the F1 service manual available on the Bevel Heaven website.
Old rule of thumb...When in doubt, safety wire anything you don't want falling off. I have the manual but it doesn't get into the specifics of the order of the disks and the Surflex clutch pack is different that what I took out of there. Thinking I just match what I took out and keep my fingers crossed. I like your rule of thumb.
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618F1
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Post subject: Re: Clutch Confusion Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:52 am |
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The order in the parts manual will work. But don’t use it for the cam bearings. MikeV
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