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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:19 am 
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583 wrote:
"I would make a truss in the part underlying as the Moretti or GPM "

Yes Carlo I suppose the above is a good alternative, effective and with a good appeal!!

Last night I managed to draw the following schetch. No Photoshop just brush and acrilic paint.
I was finding a way to reply the early ' '80 Cagiva 500 appeal.
This is my attemp.
Stock Alazzurra tank .
F1 seat and a kind of fairing


E bravo Filippo, sai che mi piace? porcamiseria.... qui si scrive in inglese :lol:
I like your project Filippo, go and show us what you are capable of !!


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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:43 am 
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Filippo,

I like the chained bike against the wall on Your pic.
That gives it just that "gardenshed built bike" stance :D :D

ciao
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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:27 pm 
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Hi Carlo and Ducadini
Thanks for the encouragement!!
Happy you like my drawn.

And yes my shed is just what it look like :)
A mix of a street shed and the "belly of the whale" (La pancia della balena di Pinocchio )..dark and short in room.
Ciao
Filippo


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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:46 pm 
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583, on the psycho I used two Ducati st2 steel swingarms, split them up the Center as to use the sprocket kickout on both sides. Than jigged and welded. It has the small pivot shaft of course. If I was to do it again I’d use a alloy version of a 851/888. For lightness. The wheel base is slightly longer with the st2 swingarm. It tends to steer like a Volvo on marbles. Boucher.


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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:29 pm 
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A Volvo on marbles. I like that Boucher.

Well, here is where I left off the swingarm I hacked up. It will work for a street bike, I think. It all goes together fine. May clean it up a bit, but not change anything else.

Now I will leave Filippo's post alone. Mike V

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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:28 am 
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618F1 wrote:
A Volvo on marbles. I like that Boucher.

Well, here is where I left off the swingarm I hacked up. It will work for a street bike, I think. It all goes together fine. May clean it up a bit, but not change anything else.

Now I will leave Filippo's post alone. Mike V

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Hi Lou, Hi guys, is the clearance for the rear wheel unchanged?


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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:28 am 
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Yes "Volvo on marble" is very evocative!!
I like it too
Thank Boucher and MikeV for replying.
Swingarm look to be the the real problem.
So thanks for posting photo and suggestions
Please MikeV add all the photo you want, don't leave me alone:)
By the way now your swingarm look very strong and reliable.

I realized I was wrong on cases dimension.
I believed 400ss had the same room of a Pantah case. This I believed, allowed me to install a modified "stock" Alazzurra swingarm
But 400ss case is 2 cm wider than a Pantah case in the swingarm mount area.

Boucher I have a monster 600 swingarm on my shed so I will give it a chance trying to do something like you did on Psyco.

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Filippo


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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:30 am 
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Yes indeed Filippo, those cases are a bit larger.
I tried the same with Indiana cases (the same as Pantah/Alazzurra and 28 mm shaft) and the rear fork (larger and aluminium, but also a few cm longer).
That would work with "flattening" the tube that goes to the bottom engine support. Or cutting the whole section.
So I cut the bottom part off (and a lot more) and fitted 600SS engine with the fork of 900SS in aluminium (also a bit longer then Pantah).
And what about the rear exhaust of the Indiana : it turns to the RHS of the engine instead of down. Don't know if it clears the battery though.
Elefant 350-650 exhausts do the same, but a bit different. But it makes it easy to put the exhaust under the seat like BigBrother 916.
Happy cutting/drilling/welding/pulling hair :twisted: :twisted:
But work safe :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: "Abby someone" project
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:16 pm 
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Of course Ducadini:
Safety First!!

I remember on internet a Pantah with Elefant exhaust line. With muffler installed on the Pantah tail.
I cannot find now any photo of that bike and I don't remember if the line was modified to fit with Pantah frame.
For shure that was a very good looking bike.

Same for Indiana rhs exhaust line i don't know if it will hit the battery and frame too.

Anyway This of the various exhaust line is a very interesting topic
Ciao
Filippo


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