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boucher
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Post subject: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:15 pm |
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Hi, I'm after a set of 88mm hi comp f1/ Allazzura pistons. They will have to fit the Allazzura /hemi type heads I'm using. Does anyone have a preference on what type of pistons I should use ? And why? Any help much appreciated. Boucher.
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618F1
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:40 pm |
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Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:23 am Posts: 1811
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Here is one that would work (with the box and numbers), if you can find them. Notice the dome is larger than the Pantah 82mm dome, but smaller than the one for an F1 (comparison in second photo). I have no idea what that compression will be, but they fit easily inside Pantah combustion chambers. Both are RAM items, often sold by Ducati and others. I also saw that Carlo used commonly-available flat-top 88 pistons for the Paso, Sport, 750 SS, and M of the 1990s. MikeV Attachment:
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:43 am |
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Hi all! >I have the to do the same choice of Boucher. But do the flat monster 750 pistons can work good on a Pantah 600 head? Thanks Filippo
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graeme
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:52 pm |
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Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:54 pm Posts: 537 Location: Brisbane
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Hello Chris, Bruce Myer was selling Weisco Pistons through Ed Millich a few years ago for F1, 88mm
Graeme
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pantah_good
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:31 pm |
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Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:20 pm Posts: 1275 Location: Vermont, USA
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Hi Graeme, Hope you don't mind if I add to your very helpful post. It's Meyers and Milich. Ed Milich can be reached at ed@ducpower.com. And that's as technical as I can get when it comes to engines. Bill
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graeme
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:53 pm |
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Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:54 pm Posts: 537 Location: Brisbane
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Thanks Bill, don't mind at all
Regards Graeme
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CrankyRoller
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:37 am |
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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:21 am Posts: 274 Images: 0
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I built a few of the allazura headed 88mm combinations in the past. Makes nice torque. Any piston with a dome will probably be too much compression. Flat top pistons from the later sport/750ss will require machining to the 82 mm combustion chamber and squish area reangled for the smaller heads. Even then it will give a relatively high compression ratio (upwards of 11.5/1). The motors I built were adjusted to around 10.5/1 for good pump gas. Ill include a picture comparing the 2 pistons. The modified piston has the squish reangled to match the 650 head and the compression ratio adjusted.
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618F1
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:32 am |
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Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:23 am Posts: 1811
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Maybe that is what Carlo did too, Cranky. I know somewhere in here are photos of an engine he was building using these pistons. And, let's not forget that the combustion chamber must be widened to the 100+/-mm of the 750cc engine from only 95mm of the 650-500 engines so that the 750 cylinders will fit. Gary Patton will also attest that a good machinist must do this work! MikeV
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TT2
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:00 am |
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Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:14 pm Posts: 85 Images: 19 Location: Brisbane
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Not sure if they will fit but I just bought in some Omega's from the UK for my TT build
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Carlo
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Post subject: Re: Ducati/cagiva hi comp pistons Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:05 am |
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