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TT1-F1
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:11 pm |
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The top one must have a double system shock that is empty?
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ducttf1
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:10 pm |
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Hi Beltboy, I sold the bike for $85,000 which was all the money at the time. I received less as I had to pay a brokers fee. I regret selling it but had a lot of bills to pay and you can't keep them all unfortunately. I am a working stiff like a lot of us on the Forum and this is an expensive hobby. The estimates are $160-$185,000.00. That is a lot of money and sadly this is the direction these bikes are going in. Sadly because very few will be able to afford a real TT. I know I couldn't. I was fortunate enough to buy my bikes when no one thought they were worth much. If I ever get into a position where I have to sell one of my TT's I will not be able to replace it. I would build myself a super replica! Lou
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Belt Boy
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:37 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:45 am Posts: 35 Location: Melbournistan
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Hi Lou, hope you are having a relaxing festive season. My question was facetious and made in jest and certainly did not merit a your good response. I understand what you are saying, as I am sure nearly all on the forum are in similar boats, just as you say. As someone who bought bevel Ducatis before anyone valued them, I fully understand the strange position of not being able to afford the bikes I actually have. And, if I did sell them, like you, I would not be able to replace them. Same as my house, actually, but not my car; that is a piece of sh!t. I believe though, that the quoted estimates are unrealistic and will be surprised if they are reached. Prices never really double overnight although strange things happen; (think Saltarelli Collection). Having said that, the estimates for the three Montjuichs seem a little low. Cheers to you for the new year.
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athleticroman
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:12 pm |
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Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:13 am Posts: 657 Images: 0 Location: Sydney, Australia
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I think with some of those estimates someone should Tell 'im 'e's dreamin' I notice with one of the Montjuichs the chassis number does not match the sample described in Ian Falloon's book on the subject. Does anyone know if there is a list of chassis/engine numbers that can be used to verify a genuine Montjuich?
_________________ Mike, Sydney Australia https://www.facebook.com/groups/HandHeldDyno
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ducttf1
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:06 pm |
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I wasn't sure on the question of 'how much' but I am pretty much an open book with most all things in my life. Seems to keep things simple that way. I think many things in the auction are fiction, but I have learned my lesson and will just say let the buyer beware. I do know my old TT1 has history and a receipt from NCR so she's pretty legit. The Montjuich prices also looked low to me as did the MV Squalo which at that price would be a deal. The auction descriptions were obviously copied from Ducati books with little history on the particular bikes being auctioned off. I actually love those two TT2's for sale and wish someone knew the history of these machines and that the pictures showed more detail. I have been invited to go to the auction and help evaluate the bikes but have declined. Big money was not the reason I became a TT enthusiast, I knew they were special machines and am glad we can all enjoy them on the Forum for free! Happy Holidays Guys and Gals. Lou
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athleticroman
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:30 pm |
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Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:13 am Posts: 657 Images: 0 Location: Sydney, Australia
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ducttf1
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:52 pm |
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I think the MV Squalo which is a really neat 175cc sohc single production racer went for $17,000.00 which I think is a good deal. A friend of mine sold his for around $25,000.00 4 years ago. Lou
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loudbike
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:25 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:37 pm Posts: 362 Images: 6 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, The Great White North
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Looks like the TTs didn't move.. Some of the interesting sales: Lot 343 1981 Ducati 500 SL Pantah Frame no. DM600SLA661673 Engine no. DM500L.1 602456 US$ 3,220 CA$ 3,496 Lot 357 1986 Ducati 750 F1 Montjuich Frame no. ZDM3EA3R9GB000158 US$ 39,100 CA$ 42,455 Lot 358 1986 Ducati 750 F1 Montjuich US$ 40,250 CA$ 43,703 Lot 359 1986 Ducati 750 F1 Montjuich US$ 28,750 CA$ 31,216 Lot 360 1987 Ducati 750 Laguna Seca, Lucchinelli Replica US$ 34,500 CA$ 37,460 Lot 363 1978 Ducati 900 NCR US$ 175,500 CA$ 190,559Lot 364 1973 Ducati 750SS US$ 137,000 CA$ 148,755Lot 368 1974 Ducati 750 GT Frame no. DM750S755563 US$ 28,750 CA$ 31,216 Lot 369 1975 Ducati 750 GT Frame no. 756324 US$ 31,050 CA$ 33,714 Lot 371 1987 Ducati 750 F1 Desmo Frame no. ZDM750R7501033DGM US$ 22,425 CA$ 24,349 Lot 372 1987 Ducati 750 F1 Desmo US$ 22,425 CA$ 24,349 Lot 376 1991 Ducati 851 Lucchinelli Race Replica US$ 40,250 CA$ 43,703Lot 377 1991 Ducati 851 SP3 Street Frame no. ZDM888S000867 US$ 25,300 CA$ 27,470 Lot 378 1988 Ducati 851 Tricolore Frame no. ZDM3HB6T2JB850046 US$ 40,250 CA$ 43,703 Results http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21389/#/MR0_page=3&MR0_length=90&MR0_category=results&MR0_currency=CAD&m0=0
_________________ Steve Munro Montreal, QC CANADA
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athleticroman
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:33 am |
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Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:13 am Posts: 657 Images: 0 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Some interesting prices there!
Though I am curious why the Laguna Seca went for nearly $6,000 more than one of the Montjuichs?
Cheers, Mike
_________________ Mike, Sydney Australia https://www.facebook.com/groups/HandHeldDyno
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Ron66
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Post subject: Re: Bonhams Auction for January Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:53 am |
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Just found this F1 in a row pic on FB
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