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 Post subject: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:59 am 
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...that was an abrupt end to a nice tour planned heading to the Dolomites. After shifting down from neutral to the first gear a loud bang occured and the clutch had no more friction. Obviously, the spring retainer of the clutch went off. I hoped that might have been an easy repair on the roadside - until I found a roller and piece of aluminium.

..how found this roller the way to that part of the motor?

Regards Wolf


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 Post subject: Re: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 11:46 pm 
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Cool bike.....sorry to hear about your troubles. I hope its something minor!!! I dont really have a guess as I am not a Pantah expert, someone on here will know for sure. I have never been in to the bottom end of a pantah, if I were to guess from the picture, looks like a piece of case and maybe a dowel?


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 Post subject: Re: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:17 am 
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Looks more like one of the bevel's clutch thingies.
Couldn't find anything Pantah related.

Did You repair it and got on with Your tour of the Dolomiti ?

ciao
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 Post subject: Re: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:43 am 
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...I didn't dare to continue, because I'm quite sure that the roller comes from the bearing #32

I think I was lucky that the roller found ist way to the clutch cover, otherwise I would have made the Sella Ronda - which is really fun...did it in the past with the 900 Super Sport (bevel) as well with the BMW R 80 G/S. I was curious about the TT2 experience - next year...

Cheers Wolf


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 Post subject: Re: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:11 am 
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Hey Wolf...
I assume that is not a very common place for a bearing failure. Be sure to post what you find after you open up that engine.
Regards...
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 Post subject: Re: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:17 am 
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...I promise to do that - but since I have 750 motor ready to bolt in this will be winter....


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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:26 am 
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Bellissimo !!!!


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 Post subject: Re: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:00 pm 
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Hallo Wolf. Did you switch to roller bearing from stock ball bearing (as suggested by Cranky) there? If not.......then how did a roller get out of there? MikeV


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 Post subject: Re: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:47 am 
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Mike,

I'm not sure if the bearings were original or modified...

is it advisable to go to roller bearings? I was not aware of that.

Wolf


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 Post subject: Re: ....what's your guess?
PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:10 am 
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Hi Wolf....
Another potential source of the roller you found. The 600SL parts manual shows two "rollers" inside the main shaft. (#27) These are not present in the F1, Alazzurra or Elefant manuals. So do they actually perform some sort of rotary task or are they just plugs in a shaft that is drilled all the way through? If this is your mystery roller the question has to be asked again.... How did it get out of there?


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